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Kembalikan tampilan Wiktionary ke tampilan lama[sunting]

Bagaimana cara mengembalikan tampilan Wiktionary ke tampilan lama (tanpa tab-tab di sisi)? Saya pikir tampilan baru malah meruwetkan daripada memudahkan untuk menyunting. Kesederhanaan tampilan di English Wiktionary bisa dijadikan contoh. Salam NoiX180 (bicara) 29 Desember 2012 10.26 (UTC)

Sebenarnya tab-tab itu adalah kreasi en.wikt, (dan memiliki banyak kegunaan), namun tidak diaktifkan secara default. Berhubung ada permintaan di atas, maka sekarang saya tidak aktifkan secara default. Jika ada yang ingin memasangnya, silakan ke Preferensi, lalu ke tab "Gadget", dan bisa diaktifkan di sana. Apabila banyak yang menginginkannya menjadi default (untuk pengguna anonim), maka settingannya sebenarnya bisa juga diubah menjadi opt-out, jadi secara default aktif, yang tidak suka bisa pergi ke Preferensi untuk menonaktifkannya.
Bennylin
30 Desember 2012 05.38 (UTC)
Okesip! Terima kasih. :D NoiX180 (bicara) 30 Desember 2012 05.50 (UTC)

Daftar isi tidak muncul[sunting]

Kok jadi begini ya? NoiX180 (bicara) 30 Desember 2012 06.11 (UTC)

kok gini ya.JPG
Sudah dimunculkan kembali. [1]. Cuma coba dibayangkan di Indonesia ada berapa banyak bahasa, dan berapa banyak yang punya kata air. Apabila Wiktionary nantinya dikembangkan untuk mencakup semua bahasa-bahasa daerah di Indonesia, bayangkan berapa panjang daftar isinya. #sekadar2rupiah.
Bennylin
17 Januari 2013 13.36 (UTC)

Tambah ruang nama Indeks[sunting]

Komunitas Wiktionary, saya ingin mengajukan ruang nama baru untuk Wiktionary bahasa Indonesia, yaitu Indeks, sama seperti Wiktionary bahasa Inggris saat ini memiliki ruang nama Index (misalnya: en:Index:Indonesian). Pertimbangannya, saat ini sudah ada beberapa halaman indeks di Wiktionary ini: Kategori:Indeks bahasa.
Bennylin
25 Januari 2013 13.14 (UTC)

{{Setuju}}/{{Tidak setuju}}

  • Setuju Setuju NoiX180 (bicara) 25 Januari 2013 13.19 (UTC)
  • (cantumkan nama Anda di sini)
Sudah 1 minggu, mari dieksekusi! :D NoiX180 (bicara) 2 Februari 2013 04.47 (UTC)
OK. :) bugzilla:44615
Bennylin
3 Februari 2013 09.40 (UTC)

Tambah ekstensi Labeled Section Transclusion[sunting]

Index section

Terkait permintaan ruang nama Indeks oleh Bang Bennylin, saya ingin menambahkan Extension:Labeled Section Transclusion agar tampilan daftar isi indeks dapat seperti gambar index section di samping (yang dikurung merah). Cuplikan gambar dari en:Index:Indonesian, contoh lebih jelas ada di halaman itu. Silakan bubuhkan nama Anda bila setuju atau tidak. NoiX180 (bicara) 25 Januari 2013 13.44 (UTC)

{{Setuju}}/{{Tidak setuju}}

  • Setuju Setuju. Saya pikir ekstensi ini sangat bagus apabila diterapkan di proyek ini. Salam.
    Bennylin
    25 Januari 2013 13.52 (UTC)
  • (cantumkan nama Anda di sini)

bugzilla:44616
Bennylin
3 Februari 2013 09.56 (UTC)

Kelas kata[sunting]

Sebenarnya saya ada kebingungan dalam memilih penamaan kelas kata. Ada dua versi yang keduanya sama-sama mumpuni: versi serapan asing (nomina, adverbia, adjektiva) dan versi Indonesia (kata benda, kata keterangan, kata sifat). Saya cenderung menggunakan versi Indonesia yang familiar selain meminimalkan seminimal mungkin kata-kata serapan asing (pakai istilah dalam negeri saja kalau memang ada padanannya). Saya ingin saran komunitas bagaimana baiknya. NoiX180 (bicara) 16 Februari 2013 18.20 (UTC)

Saya condong ke "nomina", "adverbia", dkk. karena sudah dalam bahasa Indonesia, dan memiliki keunggulan dibanding frasa "kata benda", "kata kerja", dst. Untuk menjelaskan suatu konsep, lebih simpel lebih baik. Bennylin ✒ bicara 17 Februari 2013 05.57 (UTC)

ProyekWiki Korpus bahasa Indonesia[sunting]

Artikel yang menarik dari pseerta Kongres Bahasa Indonesia ke-10 kemarin:

Saya mulai ProyekWiki baru. Silakan bergabung apabila Anda tertarik.
Bennylin
4 Februari 2014 10.36 (UTC)

Universal Language Selector will be enabled by default again on this wiki by 21 February 2014[sunting]

On January 21 2014 the MediaWiki extension Universal Language Selector (ULS) was disabled on this wiki. A new preference was added for logged-in users to turn on ULS. This was done to prevent slow loading of pages due to ULS webfonts, a behaviour that had been observed by the Wikimedia Technical Operations team on some wikis.

We are now ready to enable ULS again. The temporary preference to enable ULS will be removed. A new checkbox has been added to the Language Panel to enable/disable font delivery. This will be unchecked by default for this wiki, but can be selected at any time by the users to enable webfonts. This is an interim solution while we improve the feature of webfonts delivery.

You can read the announcement and the development plan for more information. Apologies for writing this message only in English. Thank you. Runa

Amendment to the Terms of Use[sunting]

Plural?[sunting]

Kenapa ada kategori plural untuk nomina? Dalam bahasa Indonesia tidak ada plural. Lagipula, mengatakan bahwa pengulangan kata itu plural tidak masuk akal. Satu contoh kata "mata", masa "plural"nya itu mata-mata? Pengulangan kata adalah suatu proses pembentukan kata yang sangat kaya. Sayang kalau dicap "plural". Saya usulkan sebutan plural dihapuskan karena tidak ada tempatnya dalam bahasa Indonesia, Humboldt (bicara) 25 Februari 2014 21.42 (UTC)

Sudah sempat lihat Kategori:id:Nomina (plural)? Bentuk plural memang dikenal dalam bahasa Indonesia. Salah satu caranya adalah dengan mengulang kata dasar (dwilingga), cara lain adalah dengan menambah kata "para" di depannya (para laki-laki, para mata-mata). Terkait kata mata-mata, memang memiliki dua arti, yang satu adalah bentuk plural dari mata (mis. dalam kalimat "dokter itu berpengalaman mengobati mata-mata pasiennya"), makna yang kedua adalah makna kiasan yang berarti "orang yang ditugasi menyelidiki secara diam-diam; polisi rahasia". Secara statistik, hanya sedikit sekali jumlah kata ulang semu seperti mata-mata dan laki-laki. Menurut perhitungan saya, hanya sekitar 140 kata (lihat daftar yang terus dilengkapi di Wiktionary:Daftar kata bahasa Indonesia yang selalu dalam bentuk terulang). Bandingkan dengan jumlah nomina dalam bahasa Indonesia sebanyak 18.159; apabila setiap nomina tersebut memiliki bentuk plural yang dibuat dari pengulangan kata dasar, maka jumlah kata ulang semu hanya 0.771% dari semua kata ulang nomina. Ini baru nomina saja.
Bennylin
5 Maret 2014 08.49 (UTC)
Intisari edisi Maret 2014 di kolom Bahasa Kita menulis tentang hal ini. Saya kutip sedikit:
"Jemaat, Majelis, Panitia. Ketiga kata di atas merupakan kata benda jamak/massal (mass/plural noun), tetapi dalam percakapan sehari-hari kita acap memperlakukannya sebagai kata benda tunggal...". Diterakan lebih lanjut beberapa salah kaprah yang terjadi, misalnya "jemaat-jemaat", "para majelis", dan "para panitia", yang seharusnya "para anggota jemaat", "para anggota majelis", dan "para anggota panitia". Di daftar ini pun tentu bisa kita tambahkan kata-kata serapan dari bahasa Arab maupun Latin (dan bahasa Eropa lainnya) yang bermakna asli jamak, tapi ketika diserap dalam bahasa Indonesia diperlakukan sebagai tunggal, semisal alumni, agenda, data, media (Latin-Inggris), ayat, surat, kalimat, umat (Arab), dll.
Bennylin
5 Maret 2014 16.41 (UTC)
Saya juga menemukan bahwa di dalam Indonesia terdapat kata politisi/musisi/akademisi dan politikus/musikus/akademikus. Menurut KBBI, yang pertama merupakan varian yang kedua, padahal kalau dirunut dari bahasa Belanda, politicus/musicus/academicus merupakan bentuk tunggal, sementara politici/musici/academici merupakan bentuk jamak. pembicaraan di id.wp. Sekadar berbagi informasi.
Bennylin
7 Maret 2014 15.15 (UTC)

Call for project ideas: funding is available for community experiments[sunting]

IEG key blue.png

I apologize if this message is not in your language. Please help translate it.

Do you have an idea for a project that could improve your community? Individual Engagement Grants from the Wikimedia Foundation help support individuals and small teams to organize experiments for 6 months. You can get funding to try out your idea for online community organizing, outreach, tool-building, or research to help make Wiktionary better. In March, we’re looking for new project proposals.

Examples of past Individual Engagement Grant projects:

Proposals are due by 31 March 2014. There are a number of ways to get involved!

Hope to have your participation,

--Siko Bouterse, Head of Individual Engagement Grants, Wikimedia Foundation 28 Februari 2014 19.44 (UTC)

Proposed optional changes to Terms of Use amendment[sunting]

Hello all, in response to some community comments in the discussion on the amendment to the Terms of Use on undisclosed paid editing, we have prepared two optional changes. Please read about these optional changes on Meta wiki and share your comments. If you can (and this is a non english project), please translate this announcement. Thanks! Slaporte (WMF) 13 Maret 2014 21.56 (UTC)

Changes to the default site typography coming soon[sunting]

This week, the typography on Wikimedia sites will be updated for all readers and editors who use the default "Vector" skin. This change will involve new serif fonts for some headings, small tweaks to body content fonts, text size, text color, and spacing between elements. The schedule is:

  • April 1st: non-Wikipedia projects will see this change live
  • April 3rd: Wikipedias will see this change live

This change is very similar to the "Typography Update" Beta Feature that has been available on Wikimedia projects since November 2013. After several rounds of testing and with feedback from the community, this Beta Feature will be disabled and successful aspects enabled in the default site appearance. Users who are logged in may still choose to use another skin, or alter their personal CSS, if they prefer a different appearance. Local common CSS styles will also apply as normal, for issues with local styles and scripts that impact all users.

For more information:

-- Steven Walling (Product Manager) on behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation's User Experience Design team


Pronunciation Recording[sunting]

Visual workflow draft for pronunciation recording gadget; If you have trouble watching this video here, watch it on vimeo. A more extensive/explanative version is available.

Dear Wiktionary community!

About me
My name is Rainer Rillke, and I have been volunteering at Wikimedia Commons for 3 years now, gathering experience around media files. I've been always interested in how things work and how one could improve them.
The idea
One idea that appeared last Summer was allowing the recording of small chunks of speech, uploading that to Wikimedia Commons in the background and including this into a Wiktionary entry without having the hassle doing everything by hand or installing additional software. That idea led to the foundation of MediaWiki extension PronunciationRecording during the Google Summer of Code. However, this was not completed; instead development is stale for over 5 months now.
My proposal
To make this going to work, so Wiktionary has an immediate benefit of this feature, I would like to provide the work done so far as a gadget and add some more work in regard to usability. You can see my plan at m:Grants:IEG/Finish Pronunciation Recording. And more importantly, you can give me a hand, if you are interested by writing your comments.

Thanks and kind regards --Rillke (bicara) 7 April 2014 17.25 (UTC)

This message was delivered based on commons:User:Rillke/gmd/prg. Translation fetched from: commons:User:Rillke/prg/en -- Rillke(q?) 17:42, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Using only UploadWizard for uploads[sunting]

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Hello! It was noted that on this wiki you have less than 10 local files. Presumably, you therefore don't have interest nor energies to have hundreds templates with the now required HTML, even less a local EDP. However, this means that users here will experience a mostly broken and/or illegal uploading. I propose to

so that you can avoid local maintenance and all users can have a functioning, easy upload interface in their own language. All registered users can upload on Commons and existing files will not be affected.

I'll get this done in one week from now.

  1. If you disagree with the proposal, just remove your wiki from the list.
  2. To make the UploadWizard even better, please tell your experience and ideas on commons:Commons:Upload Wizard feedback.

Nemo 19 Mei 2014 20.38 (UTC)

Media Viewer[sunting]


Greetings, my apologies for writing in English.

I wanted to let you know that Media Viewer will be released to this wiki in the coming weeks. Media Viewer allows readers of Wikimedia projects to have an enhanced view of files without having to visit the file page, but with more detail than a thumbnail. You can try Media Viewer out now by turning it on in your Beta Features. If you do not enjoy Media Viewer or if it interferes with your work after it is turned on you will be able to disable Media Viewer as well in your preferences. I invite you to share what you think about Media Viewer and how it can be made better in the future.

Thank you for your time. - Keegan (WMF) 23 Mei 2014 21.29 (UTC)

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Palembangkomering (bicara) 2 Juni 2014 08.56 (UTC)[sunting]

Tolong dong wikionarynya ada yang berbahasa musi. saya yang akan menerjemahkan seluruh kata katanya.

Media Viewer is now live on this wiki[sunting]


Media Viewer lets you see images in larger size

Greetings— and sorry for writing in English, please translate if it will help your community,

The Wikimedia Foundation's Multimedia team is happy to announce that Media Viewer was just released on this site today.

Media Viewer displays images in larger size when you click on their thumbnails, to provide a better viewing experience. Users can now view images faster and more clearly, without having to jump to separate pages — and its user interface is more intuitive, offering easy access to full-resolution images and information, with links to the file repository for editing. The tool has been tested extensively across all Wikimedia wikis over the past six months as a Beta Feature and has been released to the largest Wikipedias, all language Wikisources, and the English Wikivoyage already.

If you do not like this feature, you can easily turn it off by clicking on "Disable Media Viewer" at the bottom of the screen, pulling up the information panel (or in your your preferences) whether you have an account or not. Learn more in this Media Viewer Help page.

Please let us know if you have any questions or comments about Media Viewer. You are invited to share your feedback in this discussion on MediaWiki.org in any language, to help improve this feature. You are also welcome to take this quick survey in English, en français, o español.

We hope you enjoy Media Viewer. Many thanks to all the community members who helped make it possible. - Fabrice Florin (WMF) (talk) 19 Juni 2014 21.55 (UTC)

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PENTING: Tinjauan kegiatan Admin[sunting]

Halo. Sebuah kebijakan baru mengenai penghapusan "hak-hak istimewa" (administrator, birokrat, dll) baru saja diadopsi oleh konsensus komunitas global (komunitas anda telah menerima sebuah pemberitahuan mengenai pembahasan ini). Menurut kebijakan ini, para pengurus sedang menelaah kegiatan para administrator di wiki-wiki yang lebih kecil. Sejauh yang kami ketahui, wiki anda tidak memiliki proses formal untuk menghapus "hak-hak istimewa" dari akun-akun pasif. Hal ini berarti para pengurus akan menangani kasus ini sesuai dengan prosedur Penelaahan kegiatan Admin yang baru ini.   Kami telah menetapkan bahwa pemilik akun yang memenuhi kritera pasif (tidak ada pengeditan dan aktivitas apapun selama 2 tahun) adalah:

  1. IvanLanin (birokrat, administrator)
  2. Meursault2004 (birokrat, administrator)

  Para pemilik akun ini akan segera menerima sebuah pemberitahuan, berisi permintaan untuk memulai sebuah diskusi dalam komunitas jika mereka masih ingin mempertahankan sebagian atau seluruh hak mereka. Jika para pengguna tersebut tidak menanggapinya, maka hak-hak istimewa mereka akan dihapus oleh para pengurus.   Namun, jika anda sebagai komunitas ingin membuat proses tinjauan sendiri selain daripada yang sudah ada, mau membuat keputusan lain sehubungan pemegang hak yang pasif ini, atau sudah memiliki sebuah kebijakan yang luput dari perhatian kami, harap dapat menginformasikan hal tersebut pada para pengurus Meta-Wiki supaya kami menghentikan proses tinjauan di atas pada wiki anda. Terima kasih, Rschen7754 10 Juli 2014 19.28 (UTC)

Letter petitioning WMF to reverse recent decisions[sunting]

The Wikimedia Foundation recently created a new feature, "superprotect" status. The purpose is to prevent pages from being edited by elected administrators -- but permitting WMF staff to edit them. It has been put to use in only one case: to protect the deployment of the Media Viewer software on German Wikipedia, in defiance of a clear decision of that community to disable the feature by default, unless users decide to enable it.

If you oppose these actions, please add your name to this letter. If you know non-Wikimedians who support our vision for the free sharing of knowledge, and would like to add their names to the list, please ask them to sign an identical version of the letter on change.org.

-- JurgenNL (talk) 21 Agustus 2014 17.35 (UTC)

Process ideas for software development[sunting]

’’My apologies for writing in English.’’

Hello,

I am notifying you that a brainstorming session has been started on Meta to help the Wikimedia Foundation increase and better affect community participation in software development across all wiki projects. Basically, how can you be more involved in helping to create features on Wikimedia projects? We are inviting all interested users to voice their ideas on how communities can be more involved and informed in the product development process at the Wikimedia Foundation. It would be very appreciated if you could translate this message to help inform your local communities as well.

I and the rest of my team welcome you to participate. We hope to see you on Meta.

Kind regards, -- Rdicerb (WMF) talk 21 Agustus 2014 22.15 (UTC)

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Grants to improve your project[sunting]

Apologies for English. Please help translate this message.

Greetings! The Individual Engagement Grants program is accepting proposals for funding new experiments from September 1st to 30th. Your idea could improve Wikimedia projects with a new tool or gadget, a better process to support community-building on your wiki, research on an important issue, or something else we haven't thought of yet. Whether you need $200 or $30,000 USD, Individual Engagement Grants can cover your own project development time in addition to hiring others to help you.

Change in renaming process[sunting]

Part or all of this message may be in English. Please help translate if possible.

-- User:Keegan (WMF) (talk) 9 September 2014 16.22 (UTC)