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sebelum 2017

Selamat datang di "warung kopi". Halaman ini dikhususkan untuk Anda yang ingin mengungkapkan komentar, kritik, saran, permohonan, dan lain-lain. Selain di halaman ini, Anda dapat langsung menghubungi para pengurus Wiktionary secara langsung.

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kelihatannya fitur translation disini bermasalah ya? Saya coba tambah beberapa kosakata bahasa Jerman sering tidak bisa. RaymondSutanto (bicara) 24 Februari 2017 20.24 (UTC)

Overview #2 of updates on Wikimedia movement strategy process[sunting]

Note: Apologies for cross-posting and sending in English. This message is available for translation on Meta-Wiki.

As we mentioned last month, the Wikimedia movement is beginning a movement-wide strategy discussion, a process which will run throughout 2017. This movement strategy discussion will focus on the future of our movement: where we want to go together, and what we want to achieve.

Regular updates are being sent to the Wikimedia-l mailing list, and posted on Meta-Wiki. Each month, we are sending overviews of these updates to this page as well. Sign up to receive future announcements and monthly highlights of strategy updates on your user talk page.

Here is a overview of the updates that have been sent since our message last month:

More information about the movement strategy is available on the Meta-Wiki 2017 Wikimedia movement strategy portal.

Posted by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation, 9 Maret 2017 19.43 (UTC) • Please help translate to your languageGet help

We invite you to join the movement strategy conversation (now through April 15)[sunting]

18 Maret 2017 05.09 (UTC)

PENTING: Tinjauan kegiatan admin[sunting]

Para Pembaca. Kebijakan mengenai penghapusan "hak-hak lanjutan" (pengurus, birokrat, dsb.) telah ditetapkan melalui konsensus komunitas pada tahun 2013. Menurut kebijakan ini, para stewards meninjau aktivitas pada wiki-wiki yang tidak memiliki kebijakan "tidak boleh non-aktif". Dari sepengetahuan kami, wiki Anda tidak memiliki proses formal untuk mencabut "hak-hak lanjutan" dari akun yang sudah tidak aktif. Artinya bahwa para steward akan mengurus hal ini sesuai tinjauan kegiatan admin.

Kami telah menentukan bahwa pengguna berikut merupakan pengguna tidak aktif (tidak ada penyuntingan dan tidak ada tindakan log selama lebih dari 2 tahun):

  1. Kisti (pengurus)

Para pengguna tersebut akan menerima pemberitahuan segera, meminta mereka untuk memulai diskusi komunitas jika mereka ingin mempertahankan beberapa atau semua hak-hak mereka. Jika pengguna tersebut tidak merespon, maka hak-hak lanjutan mereka akan dihapus oleh para steward.

Namun, jika Anda sebagai anggota komunitas ingin membuat proses peninjauan kegiatan Anda sendiri menggantikan proses global, ingin membuat keputusan lain tentang pemegang hak tidak aktif ini, atau sudah memiliki kebijakan yang kita tidak tahu, maka silakan memberitahu steward di Meta-Wiki sehingga kami tidak perlu melanjutkan proses peninjauan hak pada wiki Anda. Terima kasih, Melos (bicara) 18 Maret 2017 19.06 (UTC)

Start of the 2017 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees elections[sunting]

Please accept our apologies for cross-posting this message. This message is available for translation on Meta-Wiki.

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On behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee, I am pleased to announce that self-nominations are being accepted for the 2017 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees Elections.

The Board of Trustees (Board) is the decision-making body that is ultimately responsible for the long-term sustainability of the Wikimedia Foundation, so we value wide input into its selection. More information about this role can be found on Meta-Wiki. Please read the letter from the Board of Trustees calling for candidates.

The candidacy submission phase will last from April 7 (00:00 UTC) to April 20 (23:59 UTC).

We will also be accepting questions to ask the candidates from April 7 to April 20. You can submit your questions on Meta-Wiki.

Once the questions submission period has ended on April 20, the Elections Committee will then collate the questions for the candidates to respond to beginning on April 21.

The goal of this process is to fill the three community-selected seats on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees. The election results will be used by the Board itself to select its new members.

The full schedule for the Board elections is as follows. All dates are inclusive, that is, from the beginning of the first day (UTC) to the end of the last.

  • April 7 (00:00 UTC) – April 20 (23:59 UTC) – Board nominations
  • April 7 – April 20 – Board candidates questions submission period
  • April 21 – April 30 – Board candidates answer questions
  • May 1 – May 14 – Board voting period
  • May 15–19 – Board vote checking
  • May 20 – Board result announcement goal

In addition to the Board elections, we will also soon be holding elections for the following roles:

  • Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC)
    • There are five positions being filled. More information about this election will be available on Meta-Wiki.
  • Funds Dissemination Committee Ombudsperson (Ombuds)
    • One position is being filled. More information about this election will be available on Meta-Wiki.

Please note that this year the Board of Trustees elections will be held before the FDC and Ombuds elections. Candidates who are not elected to the Board are explicitly permitted and encouraged to submit themselves as candidates to the FDC or Ombuds positions after the results of the Board elections are announced.

More information on this year's elections can be found on Meta-Wiki. Any questions related to the election can be posted on the election talk page on Meta-Wiki, or sent to the election committee's mailing list, board-elections(at)wikimedia.org.

On behalf of the Election Committee,
Katie Chan, Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee
Joe Sutherland, Community Advocate, Wikimedia Foundation

Posted by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee, 7 April 2017 03.37 (UTC) • Please help translate to your languageGet help

Read-only mode for 20 to 30 minutes on 19 April and 3 May[sunting]

MediaWiki message delivery (bicara) 11 April 2017 17.33 (UTC)

Cognate & automatic interlanguage links[sunting]

Hello all,

(I'm sorry to write in English, feel free to translate in your own language below)

From April 24th, a new interlanguage link system will be deployed on all Wiktionaries. This extension, Cognate, automatically links the pages with the same title between the Wiktionaries. This means they no longer have to be added in the pages of the main namespace.

This new feature has been developed by Wikimedia Deutschland as the first step of the project Wikidata for Wiktionary, but does not rely on Wikidata.

To allow the feature to operate, all the former interlanguage links have to be removed from the wikitext. You can do this by using a bot, as it was done on Wikipedia in the past. If you leave them in they will overwrite the automatic links.

During the development we had a lot of discussions with Wiktionary editors to understand their needs, but it's possible that some automatic links don't work as you would expect. If you find some bugs or have suggestions for improvements, feel free to add a sub-task on Phabricator or add a message on this talk page.

Thanks, Lea Lacroix (WMDE) (talk)

Voting has begun in 2017 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees elections[sunting]

3 Mei 2017 19.15 (UTC)

Beta Feature Two Column Edit Conflict View[sunting]

Birgit Müller (WMDE) 8 Mei 2017 14.42 (UTC)


Birgit Müller (WMDE) 16 Mei 2017 14.44 (UTC)

Join the next cycle of Wikimedia movement strategy discussions (underway until June 12)[sunting]

16 Mei 2017 21.10 (UTC)

Start of the 2017 Wikimedia Foundation Funds Dissemination Committee elections[sunting]

23 Mei 2017 21.05 (UTC)

Enable sitelinks on Wikidata for Wiktionary pages[sunting]


I’m sorry to write this message in English. Please help us translating the full message here!

Short version: From June 20th, we are going to store the interwiki links of all the namespaces (except main, user and talk) in Wikidata. This will not break your Wiktionary, but if you want to use all the features, you will have to remove your sitelinks from wikitext and connect your pages to Wikidata.

Long version available and translatable here.

If you have any question or concern, feel free to ping me.

Thanks, Lea Lacroix (WMDE) (talk) 1 Juni 2017 08.38 (UTC)

Sitelinks are enabled on Wikidata for Wiktionary pages (outside main namespace)[sunting]


I’m sorry to write this message in English. Please help us translating the full message here!

Short version: Since yesterday, we are able to store the interwiki links of all the Wiktionaries namespaces (except main, citations, user and talk) in Wikidata. This will not break your Wiktionary, but if you want to use all the features, you will have to remove your sitelinks from wikitext and connect your pages to Wikidata.

Important: even if it is technically possible, you should not link Wiktionary main namespace pages from Wikidata. The interwiki links for them are already provided by Cognate.

Long version available and translatable here.

If you encounter any problem or find a bug, feel free to ping me.

Thanks, MediaWiki message delivery (bicara) 21 Juni 2017 08.28 (UTC)

Enabling Page Previews[sunting]

CKoerner (WMF) 6 Juli 2017 15.03 (UTC)

Improved search in deleted pages archive[sunting]

Please help translate to your language

During Wikimedia Hackathon 2016, the Discovery team worked on one of the items on the 2015 community wishlist, namely enabling searching the archive of deleted pages. This feature is now ready for production deployment, and will be enabled on all wikis, except Wikidata.

Right now, the feature is behind a feature flag - to use it on your wiki, please go to the Special:Undelete page, and add &fuzzy=1 to the URL, like this: https://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AUndelete&fuzzy=1. Then search for the pages you're interested in. There should be more results than before, due to using ElasticSearch indexing (via the CirrusSearch extension).

We plan to enable this improved search by default on all wikis soon (around August 1, 2017). If you have any objections to this - please raise them with the Discovery team via email or on this announcement's discussion page. Like most Mediawiki configuration parameters, the functionality can be configured per wiki. Once the improved search becomes the default, you can still access the old mode using &fuzzy=0 in the URL, like this: https://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AUndelete&fuzzy=0

Please note that since Special:Undelete is an admin-only feature, this search capability is also only accessible to wiki admins.

Terima kasih! CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 25 Juli 2017 18.39 (UTC)

Accessible editing buttons[sunting]

--Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 27 Juli 2017 16.56 (UTC)

Columns for references[sunting]

1 September 2017 18.23 (UTC)

bahasa Belanda and its template problems[sunting]

Saya tidak baik berbahasa Indonesia, jadi tulisan dibahasa Inggris.

As I posted on the English Tea Room, «Just bumped into bahasa Belanda and saw a couple Lua errors. Apparently the codes bs and sr are not recognized by the translations template. I tried bos and srp, and same thing. I temporarily substituted bs with hr (Bosnian with Croatian) and sr with sh (Serbian with Serbo-Croatian), but I don't know if this is appropriate.». Now that I've found this place, which seems to be analogous to the Tea Room, what do we do about that problem? Leave the changes I made, or make the template recognize bs and sr? Or are there different codes for bs and sr recognized by that template, and which if so? MGorrone (bicara) 19 November 2017 22.29 (UTC)

PS I just noticed the translation are one-colum and leave a huge grey column to their right, so how do we make them two-column? MGorrone (bicara) 19 November 2017 22.31 (UTC)

PPS I don't know what I did yesterday, but I thought I'd posted exactly the above on the Warung Kopi but it does not appear. I have a link though: https://id.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Warung_kopi&redirect=no. I thought "bicarakan topik baru" meant "create new topic" i.e. create a new section in this "Indonesian Tea Room", but no, the right thing to click was "Bagian baru" (new part) at the top of the page. Isn't that just a teensy bit misleading now? What IS "bicarakan topik baru" for? MGorrone (bicara) 20 November 2017 10.51 (UTC)

New print to pdf feature for mobile web readers[sunting]

CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 20 November 2017 22.07 (UTC)

bahasa Belanda still has template problems!!!![sunting]

After a couple months, I came back here, and my previous post on this subject had had no response. The problems, however, were not solved. In fact, it looks like MORE OF THEM HAVE APPEARED. I vaguely remember implementing a workaround to mask them before posting, but now either THE WORKAROUND WAS UNDONE or SOMETHING WAS DONE SO THAT IT DOESN'T WORK!!!! Where is everybody? Are we going to leave this page with AT LEAST TWO LANGUAGES WITH TRANSLATIONS THAT ARE "LUA ERROR IN MODULE"?? MGorrone (bicara) 14 Januari 2018 18.08 (UTC)

UPDATE: Most errors were due to `{ {m} }` for gender, and this way of specifying gender appears to work sometimes but not other times, whereas all the times I tried to fix it, including it as an extra parameter to the language module worked. At the moment, bahasa Belanda is left with "bahasa Kroasia" giving an error since "hr" is not valid for some reason. SOMEONE FIX THIS! What is the code for Croatian if hr doesn't work? MGorrone (bicara) 15 Januari 2018 22.39 (UTC)

Actually, let's see if it's the particular gender "m" that doesn't work: Lua error in Modul:links/templates at line 43: The parameter "1" is required.., f, n. MGorrone (bicara) 15 Januari 2018 22.39 (UTC)

Well wow. When I said "fix the template problems" I did not mean "eliminate all templates and leave all language indications in English except, ironically, "Inggris". That is not appropriate on Indonesian Wiktionary. If you want to eliminate language indication templates, at least put in the Indonesian names of the languages! MGorrone (bicara) 20 Januari 2018 10.52 (UTC)

Apparently someone inserted templates that work and the page is now fine. Also apparently, the Warung Kopi here has zero traffic beside me. Why not comment on my post saying that something had been done? Well, whatever, the problem is gone. See you next time. MGorrone (bicara) 11 Februari 2018 23.03 (UTC)

Tell us what you think about the automatic links for Wiktionary[sunting]


Birgit Müller (WMDE) 7 Mei 2018 14.53 (UTC)

Lexicographical data is now available on Wikidata[sunting]

Update on page issues on mobile web[sunting]

CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 12 Juni 2018 20.58 (UTC)

Global preferences are available[sunting]

10 Juli 2018 19.19 (UTC)

Consultation on the creation of a separate user group for editing sitewide CSS/JS[sunting]

New user group for editing sitewide CSS/JS[sunting]

Wiktionary Cognate Dashboard[sunting]

Editing of sitewide CSS/JS is only possible for interface administrators from now[sunting]

(Please help translate to your language)

Hi all,

as announced previously, permission handling for CSS/JS pages has changed: only members of the interface-admin (Pengurus antarmuka) group, and a few highly privileged global groups such as stewards, can edit CSS/JS pages that they do not own (that is, any page ending with .css or .js that is either in the MediaWiki: namespace or is another user's user subpage). This is done to improve the security of readers and editors of Wikimedia projects. More information is available at Creation of separate user group for editing sitewide CSS/JS. If you encounter any unexpected problems, please contact me or file a bug.

Tgr (talk) 27 Agustus 2018 12.39 (UTC) (via global message delivery)

Read-only mode for up to an hour on 12 September and 10 October[sunting]

6 September 2018 13.33 (UTC)

The Community Wishlist Survey[sunting]

30 Oktober 2018 11.06 (UTC)

Change coming to how certain templates will appear on the mobile web[sunting]

CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 13 November 2018 19.34 (UTC)

Community Wishlist Survey vote[sunting]

22 November 2018 18.13 (UTC)

Advanced Search[sunting]

Johanna Strodt (WMDE) (talk) 26 November 2018 11.02 (UTC)

Tertarik oleh editor terjemahan untuk proyek Anda?[sunting]

Halo, maafkan bahasa Indonesia saya yang buruk.

Seperti yang Anda ketahui, ada gadget yang memungkinkan untuk menambahkan terjemahan ke proyek Wiktionary dengan sangat mudah. Gadget ini sudah ada di beberapa proyek (en.wikt, fr.wikt, dll.).

Skalman dan saya sedang mempertimbangkan membuat gadget yang cocok untuk berbagai proyek wiktionary, termasuk milik Anda. Saya punya beberapa pertanyaan untuk anda:

  1. Apakah Anda tertarik dengan alat seperti itu?
  2. Apakah ada orang (sebaiknya sysop) yang bersedia bekerja sama untuk implementasi gadget semacam itu?

Menanti untuk mendengarnya darimu, - Automatik (bicara) 2 Desember 2018 20.35 (UTC)

Original message in English
Interested by a translation editor for your project?

Hello, Sorry for my bad Indonesian.

As you may know, there exists a gadget that allows to add translation to Wiktionary projects very easily. This gadget already exists on a few projects (en.wikt, fr.wikt, etc.).

Skalman and I are considering creating a gadget that would be suitable to various wiktionary projects, including yours. I have a few questions for you:

  1. Would you be interested in such a tool?
  2. Is there anyone (preferably a sysop) that would be up to cooperate for the implementation of such a gadget?

Looking forward to hearing from you, --Automatik (bicara) 3 Desember 2018 13.39 (UTC)

New Wikimedia password policy and requirements[sunting]

CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 6 Desember 2018 20.03 (UTC)